[He's calm when he speaks, his voice a bit too even. A bit too straightforward.]

I gave up a lot of my close relationships back then. What they meant to me varied; Barry hardly mattered, outside of being a good man that I had no argument with. Chris and Jill were obviously different. You know my thoughts on Birkin.

I was willing to give up more or less everything if it meant that I could have what I wanted. This was another thing that I was required to let go of.

[He's quiet for a moment.]

I never regret anything, in dreams or memories like that. I obviously hate it now, but back then it was simply something that had to be done. Removing anything or anyone that might stand in my way.

It's never personal. But there are no regrets.